[4ng31]

Too lazy to summarize the old thread...but you should know the role by now...I mean, this is the 8th thread now...

II - http://www.cosfu.net...?showtopic=1861
III - http://www.cosfu.net...?showtopic=1957
IV - http://www.cosfu.net...?showtopic=2010
V - http://www.cosfu.net...wtopic=2146&hl=
VI - http://www.cosfu.net...?showtopic=2311
VII - http://www.cosfu.net...?showtopic=2466

[MYK]

not on coscom, but still: is it okay to have sex with my gf at con?

really? what possessed this guy to think that this is a question to ask on an internet forum for a family-friendly con?

[Torque]

not on coscom, but still: is it okay to have sex with my gf at con?

really? what possessed this guy to think that this is a question to ask on an internet forum for a family-friendly con?

What a moron. You are already staying in a hotel together. It's not like your screwing in the convention center where everone can see you. If she's in the mood, go for it.

[Argy Bargy]

not on coscom, but still: is it okay to have sex with my gf at con?

really? what possessed this guy to think that this is a question to ask on an internet forum for a family-friendly con?

Either a troll or poor attempt at showing off, I believe the only proper response is "only if it's in costume and you take pictures."

[Dojo]

did you know that only 5% of the anime community is christian? oh noes!1!!!1!

[aquarianfae]

So a Christian meetup is grounds for idiocy? Frankly, I'm offended by this notion. Idiocy knows no religion. GTFO.

[LunaStarFighter]

The meet up isn't the problem. It's that this guy wants to go around and try and convert people at cons.

but this is also meant as an outreach ministry to bring god to the convention and its members. did you know that only 5% of the anime community is christian? It is time to make a change, and this is it. Please help me and join to help the cause

That's the only part I have an issue with. I don't go to cons to get converted. I go to have fun.

[Cos I said so]

Dojo is just an ass. Although the OP for the gathering could be more tactful and is naive to how people in the anime community view religion...it's his prerogative. He's looking to get together with other Christians going to AX. That's fine, and he's not being an ass about it. Being a Christian, I also know that those who grow up in evangelical churches have it stuffed down their throats that everything they do is supposed to be an outreach opportunity. So, not entirely his fault...just naivety and lack of a personal opinion.

I'm severely offended that religion=idiocy...

Dojo, go fuck yourself.

[Argy Bargy]

So, not entirely his fault...just naivety and lack of a personal opinion.

I'm mostly offended by his dodgy statistics.

[Sinner_Chrno]

The meet up isn't the problem. It's that this guy wants to go around and try and convert people at cons.
That's the only part I have an issue with. I don't go to cons to get converted. I go to have fun.

Ugh..I'm sooooo sick of people trying to bring religion into cons by means of worship services. (which are usually just christian services). I just hate how it seems like one religion is catered to and others left out.
Then again, maybe other religions don't see the need to try and convert a bunch of weeaboo.

[4ng31]

I'm severely offended that religion=idiocy...

Internet = SRS FUCKING BIZ!

Tell me then, how does what you wear reflect your religious affiliation...

Henna-chan broutght this to my attention, I don't want to bust anyones fun but i have to set a few ground rules. first of all Th cosplay can't be offensive to the beliefes, as in for girls the cosplay has to be modest same for guys, and also no demons or vampires or stuff of that nature. I'm really sorry, but this is all that I ask.

...I just wanna make sure that if I dress up like a vampire, that I won't be as holy as the next cosplayer in an Organization jacket.

[Enki]

Internet = SRS FUCKING BIZ!

Tell me then, how does what you wear reflect your religious affiliation...

...I just wanna make sure that if I dress up like a vampire, that I won't be as holy as the next cosplayer in an Organization jacket.

Gotta agree with 4ng31 here, the OP of that thread and some of the posters in that thread are complete idiots. Religion doesn't automatically equal idiocy, but there's an eerie correlation many times. Some of the most ignorant and hateful views I've ever seen were from Christians.

As for the 'no demon cosplay allowed plz', that's just hilarious. Reminds me of how my mother's Pentecostal preacher parents wouldn't let her celebrate Halloween as a kid, like if you pretend to be a devil for fun it makes it so or corrupts you or something. How progressive. So, I'm wondering, is it no demon/vampire cosplay just during their little service/'converting the sinners' exercise and they can save the demons and vampires for other times at the con, or are they condemning vampire/demon cosplay period. Either way, I smiled.

Anyways, about the OP's plans to convert, I hope he's smart and decides to keep to his little group. I'd like to think most people would take un-solicited spiritual advice with good humor and politely excuse themselves, but it could get ugly if they find someone who's hostile about it.

It really is rude to go to such an event and try to convert people, but I try to remember that they don't see it that way. To them, they're positive you're going to hell otherwise and they have to 'save' you. Of course, more than a polite invite does go against free will, but still, I try to be patient. I agree with the others who said they go to cons to get away from such concerns though, so it's annoying, but if it turns out they're harassing people, I'm sure they'll be reported to con security and dealt with.

[saintedsin]

All things Christian aside, the guy sounds like a twat. Making up statistics, silly rules, pretentious.

I agree with Argy, the statistics thing is the most annoying.

[BanzaiBrittany]

I replied in it...all the bitching was getting on my fucking nerves. :P

[Dojo]

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The meet up isn't the problem. It's that this guy wants to go around and try and convert people at cons.



That's the only part I have an issue with. I don't go to cons to get converted. I go to have fun.

Exactly what I was talking about, which is why I quoted that part from the OP. He said it as if it were a problem, that he needed to go "fix" by converting people. Or at least thats the vibe I'm getting. Which to me qualifies as facepalm worthy. I'm certainly not bashing their wanting to hang out together or even their choice of religion. Even if he was trying to convert people to to agnosticism (what I classify myself as), I still would have has the same reaction.

[DarkFujin]

Did you know that 76% of all statistics are made up on the spot?


;)

[Owlzilla]

As an Athiest I don't like other people thrusting their views and beliefs in my face, I have my own reasons for my stance which are mine and mine alone. Pretty much all my friends follow one religion or another but know better than to talk me about it. I resent the constant implication from people that as an Athiest I need 'saving'/converting or i'll burn or be murdered or something. I know it will start out with the best of intentions with a few like minded individuals but then the more fantatical believers will show up and it will snowball.

I had enough of that at my last con in London. There was a Islamic Peace Convention (Basically like a big open day with information and fair ground rides etc) in the same con centre. Now cosplayers and muslims got on fine throughout the day they asked for photos and we posed etc all happy smiley. But then by the end of the day the hardliners turned up and I was being accosted by some dude with a megaphone telling me if I didn't convert I would be killed along the with the rest of the 'Kaffirs'. I don't go to a con to have that kind of thing happen. If you believe in a divine creator then thats fine, attend a church, knock yourselves out and go in cosplay or whatever, I don't see the reason of bringing it to a con if the organisers wanted it be used as a Christian outreach programme they would have done it themselves.

[RoxyDirKaoru]

I completly agree with Owlzilla.

[Lizard]

Being a Christian, I also know that those who grow up in evangelical churches have it stuffed down their throats that everything they do is supposed to be an outreach opportunity. So, not entirely his fault...just naivety and lack of a personal opinion.

On the flip side, though, churches like mine have a different take on it.

"Spreading the gospel" doesn't always mean "go forth and shove bibles down peoples throats to make them believe in Christ." Everyone knows actions speak louder than words - according to what I was taught, every venue and every day you should be spreading the word of Christ by living as an example of His teachings. You don't have to hop on a soap box and read Revelation to random passerby, you do have to be good, honest, caring, patient, forgiving, loving, everything that Christ calls us to be. Oddly enough, that can draw FAR more attention, over time, than preaching loudly from the middle of the quad. So, yes, everything is an outreach opportunity. People don't really respond to "you must do this." People respond very well when they see you have "something" in your life that's good - they begin to want it, too.

Which is not to say that all Christians are always happy and should always be perfect and all non-Christians are always miserable and never good people... but I've rambled enough on this I think. Point is, can't jump to conclusions about what a "Christian gathering" is and is not going to do, because beliefs and practices vary HUGELY between denominations, churches, and individuals, even if they're all of the same faith.

It looks like a lot of users are signing up to the forums at cos.com just to bust this guy's chops and make thinly veiled threats when he hasn't proposed doing anything wrong.

I'd pitch in my $0.02 on that thread, but I think BanzaiBrittany there said everything I would have.

[Torque]

Crap like this is the reason that Christians get a bad rap. Making up statistics and trying to turn every single solitary public outing into an evangelical opportunity won't convert people, it will just annoy them and make all Christians look like annoying twats. As a Christian myself, I am offended by this kid's attitude. If they were just going to have a nice little get together and worship service, that's fine with me but it sounds like they are going to go around the con proselytizing.

For the record, aquarianfae is absolutely right. Idiocy knows no religion (or lack thereof). Some of the most ignorant and hateful things I have have ever heard have come from Atheists, Wiccans and all those other groups who are supposed to be "tolerant" by their very nature.

[Argy Bargy]

I'd pitch in my $0.02 on that thread, but I think BanzaiBrittany there said everything I would have.

For the most part, I agree, but I do bristle a bit at BanzaiBrittany's implication that there is Christian-bashing going on just for lulz or out of childhood spite. The problem is that Christianity is a mainstream religion with many denominations leaning heavily on evangelicalism. You don't see that aggressive emphasis on conversion nearly as much in other religions present in the United States.

Blargle... posted my own reply.

[Chico_Chan]

Ugh I respect other people beliefs well and fine, but religion just brings up bad memories in me. Seeing as my entire family are all Jehovah's Witnesses, I get the Bible shoved down my throat every time I try to say "Hi Mom, how you guys been since I moved out?"

[evaunit01berserk]

Ugh I respect other people beliefs well and fine, but religion just brings up bad memories in me. Seeing as my entire family are all Jehovah's Witnesses, I get the Bible shoved down my throat every time I try to say "Hi Mom, how you guys been since I moved out?"

chico, as a former jehovah's witness <born into it> i know what you mean. that religion ruined my family, kept secrets from my mother that she should have known about my step father before she married his useless manipulating ass.

[Xasch]

Lol, GJ getting banned Dojo.

unless troll was played on me and you used that as your subtitle...

This post has been edited by Xasch: 12 February 2009 - 05:03 PM

[Dojo]

you used that as your subtitle...[/size]

Bingo.

It was the only witty thing I could think of.

[Chico_Chan]

chico, as a former jehovah's witness <born into it> i know what you mean. that religion ruined my family, kept secrets from my mother that she should have known about my step father before she married his useless manipulating ass.

Yeah I was born into it as well and left home as soon as I could. I knew since I was pretty young some things were just not right about it. My parents didn't even want me to go to college. They wanted me to go to Bethel and paint for the Watchtower -_- Oh god I went there once and I think prison would give you more freedom. Sure all your bills are paid for but they tell you when to eat, when to work, when to clean, what you can and cannot watch. No video games or music that isn't "kingdom melodies" Ug bullet through the brain plz.

I'm sorry it's been so harmful to your family. I know my parents are completely misty eyed and another who goes to the hall cannot do wrong in their eyes because "of how they love god properly." They go screwed out of alot of money in some bad business choices with other Witnesses. Alot of people that I was forced to hang around were extremely two faced. My parents refuse to talk to me anymore than every 3-6 months, because you know... I'm such a sinner :/ LOL

This post has been edited by Chico_Chan: 12 February 2009 - 06:30 PM

[KiwiBloom]

Religion doesn't automatically equal idiocy, but there's an eerie correlation many times.

For anyone who regularly watches Wife Swap... This is a painful, painful truth.

[evaunit01berserk]

My parents didn't even want me to go to college. They wanted me to go to Bethel and paint for the Watchtower

go figure, so did my mother before she left because of the bull with this guy. i think thats the main reason my whole school life was fucked up because of the witness crap

[Rakuen]

*sigh* Being one, there's a lot of Witnesses that need to get a grip. Especially regarding matters they have no business butting into.

Incidentally, my congregation hasn't had any problem with my going to college. Which is exactly what their opinion is supposed to be. >_>

[Ketsueki Ame]

If i was at a convention, tired from lack fo sleep the night before and waking up early, the laast thing i'd want to be apporached by is a bunch of cosplayers preaching god. I find the "dress modest" thing very hilarious, its costuming, its ont like these people, christians or not are WEARING skanky clothing everyday. Thats like giving swimmers a dirty look because they're dressing in skin-showing clothing due to the specific occasion.

and where the crap did he get that statistic? I tried a few searches on google and found nothing, but i did stumble across this...

http://www.christiananime.net/

with the number of posts and the like, i would reckon there MORE than 5%.

Sounds like a whiny religious christian to me :/